Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby Jay-H » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:12 pm

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Eat-Lift-Fuck wrote:I bought "drop the panties" (great read), but I was just wondering about the placement of starchy carbs for an individual looking to lean out and not sacrifice muscle and strength in the process. Carbs pre and post workout? Pre only? no PWO shake? etc .. possible over thinking on my behalf, but I haven't focused on leaning out in a while,(following "Swole" for the past while) it came naturally to me as I worked hard labour all day then either boxed or lifted weights afterwards, eating lowish carb paleo, I was ripped, but weak.


It's entirely possible to use "paleo-ish" carbs like fruit to get lean and not get weak or lose muscle. That said, if you do opt to go the starchy route, which also works well, you'd do best to keep them to the first few meals of the day, and in the PWO window.
Cool, I used to eat "paleo" back then , I now eat and feel good with rice and oats alongside my meals now for mass gain. I meant more so that Im curious about carb timing , i read things like "no carbs Pwo" just protein etc... for better fat loss. but im thinking that might not work best for muscle/strength preservation?
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby Jay-H » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:13 pm

Sorry if that reads like shit, its late here ha
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby johnnypain » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:16 pm

Eat-Lift-Fuck wrote:Sorry if that reads like shit, its late here ha


Whether for fat loss or mass gain, I always include carbs post workout.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby Jay-H » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:57 am

Cool, looking back now that was pure over thinking on my behalf.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby Jay-H » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:36 pm

Any modifications for SWOLE for those who have to work out later in the night?
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby johnnypain » Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:46 pm

Eat-Lift-Fuck wrote:Any modifications for SWOLE for those who have to work out later in the night?


None necessary. PWO stays the same.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby Jay-H » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:23 pm

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Eat-Lift-Fuck wrote:Any modifications for SWOLE for those who have to work out later in the night?


None necessary. PWO stays the same.

Alright cool, so the PWO meal or shake with one serving carbs, then the cut off?
I usually train after my second meal, but recently had to join in with a group of clients I train, I was just wondering about if the carb cut still applied.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby johnnypain » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:27 pm

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johnnypain wrote:
Eat-Lift-Fuck wrote:Any modifications for SWOLE for those who have to work out later in the night?


None necessary. PWO stays the same.

Alright cool, so the PWO meal or shake with one serving carbs, then the cut off?
I usually train after my second meal, but recently had to join in with a group of clients I train, I was just wondering about if the carb cut still applied.


Yeah, the exception to the carb cutoff rule is a late in the day workout. Do everything else the same, just have your PWO shake upon finishing the workout as you would if it were earlier in the day.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby Jay-H » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:28 pm

In Swole you have yogurt as a carb source.Do you count Greek Yogurt count as a protein source or carb? If so, would it be suitable for the last meal of the day?
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby johnnypain » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:59 pm

Eat-Lift-Fuck wrote:In Swole you have yogurt as a carb source.Do you count Greek Yogurt count as a protein source or carb? If so, would it be suitable for the last meal of the day?


I always consider yogurt a carb source.
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