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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby johnnypain » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:21 pm

Damian wrote:
johnnypain wrote:
Aside from the water retention there is the enhanced carbohydrate storage, and the improved amino acid absorption.
It also helps you better use insulin.

Can't go wrong with sodium.


Do you have any general recommendations as to the amount per day one would consume? In your 10 tips for mass gain article you mention that you put 1 can of broth and 1 can of gravy with the roast. Both of those have pretty high amounts of sodium, so I would assume it would be good to drink the liquid left over once the roast is done?


Drinking the crock pot juice would be a bit excessive. I did once drink a container of KFC gravy to make my then girlfriend laugh. It worked, I threw up almost immediately though.

Just put salt on your food, and don't buy low sodium anything.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby rquantz » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:32 am

Hi JP, I've been reading for a while, thought I'd ask this lovely question:

I'm looking for a protein supplement I can digest. I tried just a regular whey blend (isolate + concentrate) but... yeah, bad news. Now I've sprung for a protein isolate by Infinite Labs, but after two shakes in one day, I am laid low with gas, cramps, and diarrhea. Looking more closely at the ingredients, it has sucralose in it, which some people say causes trouble for digestion. Or maybe it's the whey protein. Or the little bit of raw oatmeal I put in. Or maybe I just need to start with a little bit of protein supplement every day and work up to full scoops? Any suggestions of where to go from here, or any other products to try? I want to avoid gastrointestinal distress.

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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby johnnypain » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:15 am

rquantz wrote:Hi JP, I've been reading for a while, thought I'd ask this lovely question:

I'm looking for a protein supplement I can digest. I tried just a regular whey blend (isolate + concentrate) but... yeah, bad news. Now I've sprung for a protein isolate by Infinite Labs, but after two shakes in one day, I am laid low with gas, cramps, and diarrhea. Looking more closely at the ingredients, it has sucralose in it, which some people say causes trouble for digestion. Or maybe it's the whey protein. Or the little bit of raw oatmeal I put in. Or maybe I just need to start with a little bit of protein supplement every day and work up to full scoops? Any suggestions of where to go from here, or any other products to try? I want to avoid gastrointestinal distress.

Thanks.


Whey Isolate usually eliminates any GI distress. If that's not doing it though, I've had a lot of success with Beef Protein from True Protein for people with sensitive stomachs.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby SNUTTZ » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:25 am

JP, what a fucking awesome thread. just smashed the whole Magna Carta this morning.

buy in to men's health and trendy diets OR read this thread for victory.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby Briceps » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:01 am

I'm sure this has been asked before, but do you recommend PWO 3:1 for those whose focus is recomp? I've gotten real soft and am slowly adding in layers and was thinking of keeping the PWO shake in until I've added in plenty of "fat loss" layers.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby johnnypain » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:10 am

Briceps wrote:I'm sure this has been asked before, but do you recommend PWO 3:1 for those whose focus is recomp? I've gotten real soft and am slowly adding in layers and was thinking of keeping the PWO shake in until I've added in plenty of "fat loss" layers.


You can go either way with this one. I've had people make successful transformations with or without a PWO shake. Again, keep in mind that it represents a very small layer (1 shake, 3x week) and isn't going to have a drastic effect either way (the exception to this rule being for the bodybuilder injecting insulin).
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby BST13 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:41 am

Hey,

I'm hoping I'm posting this in the correct thread.

Ok, I'm new here and stumbled upon GSLP while searching various workout programs (SS and others..) and this brings me here. A little bit about me, I'm 26 fairly athletic, but looking to put on some healthy weight and a little more mass. Some stats, I'm 5'11, ~77Kgs (~175 lbs or so), 32 inch waist. I'm a soccer player, in a fairly competitive league and most of my weight/strength is in my legs so I guess I'm looking to increase that, but as well as gain some upper body mass.

Any ways to the point after a little background/goals...

I'm having trouble with the diet ( I don't mean it as in dieting..) mostly what to eat and when. I'm not picky and have no allergies. I have a budget of about 75/100$ a week for food. I guess I just need help figuring out the meals and the timing/planning.

Thanks for any responses - and I'm willing to answer any questions that would help out.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby johnnypain » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:55 pm

BST13 wrote:Hey,

I'm hoping I'm posting this in the correct thread.

Ok, I'm new here and stumbled upon GSLP while searching various workout programs (SS and others..) and this brings me here. A little bit about me, I'm 26 fairly athletic, but looking to put on some healthy weight and a little more mass. Some stats, I'm 5'11, ~77Kgs (~175 lbs or so), 32 inch waist. I'm a soccer player, in a fairly competitive league and most of my weight/strength is in my legs so I guess I'm looking to increase that, but as well as gain some upper body mass.

Any ways to the point after a little background/goals...

I'm having trouble with the diet ( I don't mean it as in dieting..) mostly what to eat and when. I'm not picky and have no allergies. I have a budget of about 75/100$ a week for food. I guess I just need help figuring out the meals and the timing/planning.

Thanks for any responses - and I'm willing to answer any questions that would help out.


Your best bet would be to check out SWOLE: The Greyskull Growth Principles. It lays all of the groundwork for building a diet conducive to what you are looking to do. Once you have that base established, it is considerably easier to provide feedback and adjustments on what is already in place.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby Jay-H » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:29 pm

I bought "drop the panties" (great read), but I was just wondering about the placement of starchy carbs for an individual looking to lean out and not sacrifice muscle and strength in the process. Carbs pre and post workout? Pre only? no PWO shake? etc .. possible over thinking on my behalf, but I haven't focused on leaning out in a while,(following "Swole" for the past while) it came naturally to me as I worked hard labour all day then either boxed or lifted weights afterwards, eating lowish carb paleo, I was ripped, but weak.
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Re: Villainous vittles, aka, nefarious nutrition

Postby johnnypain » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:03 pm

Eat-Lift-Fuck wrote:I bought "drop the panties" (great read), but I was just wondering about the placement of starchy carbs for an individual looking to lean out and not sacrifice muscle and strength in the process. Carbs pre and post workout? Pre only? no PWO shake? etc .. possible over thinking on my behalf, but I haven't focused on leaning out in a while,(following "Swole" for the past while) it came naturally to me as I worked hard labour all day then either boxed or lifted weights afterwards, eating lowish carb paleo, I was ripped, but weak.


It's entirely possible to use "paleo-ish" carbs like fruit to get lean and not get weak or lose muscle. That said, if you do opt to go the starchy route, which also works well, you'd do best to keep them to the first few meals of the day, and in the PWO window.
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