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Yates Row

Postby TallAndThin » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:03 pm

I must be making this exercise more difficult than it needs to be but I'm not getting it. I'm trying to follow the form as laid out in the Grayskull LP book, hands just inside hips, knees slightly bent, near vertical back. I try to keep my elbows in and pull the elbows back. I'm just not feeling anything. What should it feel like? Am I supposed to squeeze my shoulder blades together? Where should I feel fatigue in the exercise?

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Re: Yates Row

Postby johnnypain » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:44 pm

For starters I have to ask two questions:

1. How much are you deadlifting for work sets?

2. How many dead hang chin ups can you do in a row?


And then a third...

3. How much weight are you using for the Yates row?
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Re: Yates Row

Postby TallAndThin » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:02 pm

Please excuse my ignorance on this as I'm new to strength training with a barbell. When posting weight do I include the weight of the bar or just the added weight?

Either way deadlift is 190 lbs of added weight or 235 lbs total.

I can do 5 dead hang body weight chinups.

Weight for Yates rows was 80 lbs of added weight or 125 lbs of total weight.

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Re: Yates Row

Postby johnnypain » Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:08 pm

Yes, always include the weight of the bar when noting a load.

The reason I asked those questions is something that I will address in a post that I'm working on for the site as we speak. A large portion of the questions I receive both on here and in other forms are in regards to rows, and how to perform them/add them to a program.

The bottom line is this: For most, the row is an unnecessary movement that the trainee is not at a stage in his training where it is even able to be that effective. It's similar to dips or other movements that I recommend progressing in simpler progressions in before taking on.

Basically, unless you're deadlifting ~365 at a minimum for working sets, and can knock out 10-12 minimum dead hang chins, I don't believe you have a use for rows just yet. The time and energy would be better invested working towards those targets.
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